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Does this appear to be sold as a money looser with the profit coming from sales of the books? Think razors, xbox, etc. I am guessing this is a very hard question to answer as the cost of the screen and R&D are unknown. It seems similar in complexity and capability to modern PDA phones or the iPhone. Some more photos of the entire device would be cool.
What other formats can it view? It claims word compatibility. Word can barely open word files so I would guess it has issues.
#2 - Aki said:
2007-12-04 11:26 -
My gut states that the Kindle is sold at more than production cost, unless they don't know how to make these things, or haven't done a good job negotiating parts.
There are several inefficiencies in the design that could be used to drop the production cost further. For example, the NXP part functionality could be integrated into the PXA255, freeing up space to move some or all the parts on the reverse of the circuit board to the top, dropping process costs significantly. The SD card attachment can go onto the main PCB. The PIC microcontroller could be replaced with something cheaper, or integrated into the PXA255. The Flash memory should go from the custom Samsung to a standard type.
The R&D on this appears to have gone into the server side. The placement of buttons, the responsiveness of the keyboard (even in light of the slow display update), and other factors make me think that the device software is quite simple.
What I found surprising is the amount of air inside the case. With better placement and better choice of components the case could have been noticeably smaller.
As far as I can tell, it can only handle the Kindle-specific formats and plain text. Thus everything must be converted to Kindle using the email-based service. I doubt it would open word files, but perhaps the conversion takes them to the electronic book format or something.
#3 - David 2007-12-19 12:25 -
Hey Doc,
If you see any hacking out there will you post a link here for all to see? We are certainly interested to see if the EVDO can be wedged away from the kindle and used on other computers. Thoughts?
David
#4 - Harold De Armas 2007-12-04 13:20 -
Did you try out converting any PDF or word documents? I'm curious to know if the images were converted into the Kindle AZW file format and if word / PDF are the same.
#5 - fred.bertsch 2007-12-05 07:23 -
It seems crazy for them to sell it above production costs. How do you know how much it cost to develop and manufacture the screen, for example?
#6 - Aki said:
2007-12-05 07:28 -
Fred, what I meant that they are making a profit on it. The screen is purchased from another company, the same on that also supplies to to several others. (The name escapes me this second.)
Perhaps their development effort was not as efficient as it could. Time permitting, I'm hoping to get to make comparisons to the guts in the Sony eBook Reader, as I believe it illustrates what efficient design is all about.
#7 - Inside the Kindle: Hacking Opportunities? | Kindle News said:
2007-12-18 19:03 -
[...] Dr.Ã? Blip’s PC-Doctor has recently documented a step-by-step guide to disasssemble kindle, and inspected what’s inside the kindle.Ã? What led him to popping the covers on kindle is his obsevation that kindle do not display images above 64KB. Dr. Blip couldn’t be sure whether it’s an ‘intentional limitation in the kindle software, a a CPU-driven feature (e.g. 16-bit registers), or caused by memory constraints’.Ã? Ã? [...]
#8 - Aki said:
2007-12-19 12:46 -
If you mean physically removing the EVDO, that shouldn't be too difficult, as the signal pins are on a board-to-board connector, and solder appears to only be on attachment points for the metallic shell of the EVDO board. The "API" for the EVDO board is published, and it seems to be sort of like an AT-command based modem.
But why would you do that? You'd have a broken Kindle and a modem that's not very different from ones you can buy separately for less than the cost of a Kindle. If you want to use the internet connection for other purposes on a "no-fee" basis, it might be possible, but it's also equally likely that there's a secret handshake between the Kindle software and the network service provider, in which case you are probably out of luck.
In any case, that type of hack would be outside of the spirit of hacking, in that you are trying to repurpose hardware to circumvent a commercially available service. The "ethical" hacking concept centers on making things do stuff they were not designed to do, and there is no alternative to achieve the same.
On the coolness meter, I'd very much like to see hacks for also running my own software on the Kindle. Auto-updating weather comes to mind. Some documentation lookup applications also. I'd happily pay for that flexibility, though as it appears that Amazon already made a profit on the unit when they sold it to me, I wouldn't expect it to be a big pile. It's also possible that Amazon wouldn't care, but their network provider does.
#10 - Blog Kindle · UPDATE - Kindle Stripped Naked: Lets See What’s Insid said:
2007-12-26 00:36 -
[...] Source: Dr Blip PC Doctor - Inside the Amazon Kindle [...]
#11 - anon 2008-01-03 20:41 -
The Kindle converted image format is a mobipocket container. The mobipocket format (which is basically the Palm database format) is record-based and limited to 64KB of data per record, so it's not surprising that your images were limited to 64KB. (What is surprising is that the rest of the file worked. Or did you only convert a single image?)
#12 - Chris Hill said:
2008-01-04 09:55 -
Here's an article discussing an in-depth reverse engineering project on the Kindle, which revealed some interesting hidden features including minesweeper (the game), location technology, and more.
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9838934-1.html?tag=nl.e501
#13 - MuadDave 2008-01-04 12:10 -
I think the second Microchip part is really a rail-to-rail op amp. Here's the datasheet showing similar markings on page 17.
#14 - Aki said:
2008-01-04 13:00 -
That makes sense now that I look at the part, too. The traces to the legs are wider than most of the signal traces, which implies that they are intended to carry more current. It's most likely the MCP6282E op amp. Thanks for locating it.
#15 - Inside the Kindle « A Blog about the Amazon Kindle said:
2008-01-15 10:22 -
[...] Dr. Blip’s blog has a lot of close-up shots of the Kindle. [...]
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